tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post5675692756174187027..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: Keeping Warm in an 18th c. Gentleman's Great CoatUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-49795672605082290452010-11-20T00:01:44.343-05:002010-11-20T00:01:44.343-05:00I went to the Burnley & Trowbridge FB and main...I went to the Burnley & Trowbridge FB and main site and they are very informative. Just wish I was close enough to attend the workshops! I discovered from the website what my gggggfr meant in his account when he wrote "dthead buttons" - I puzzled over this for ages but then I saw the term "Death Head Buttons", those rounded cloth-covered jobbies. Eureka!Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-4310689544390959072010-11-18T12:55:33.943-05:002010-11-18T12:55:33.943-05:00More on the wool beaver cloth - here's a link ...More on the wool beaver cloth - here's a link to the modern version of the fabric used for this great coat. Thank you, Angela, for bringing it to our attention!<br /><br />http://www.burnleyandtrowbridge.com/5580-bearskinorbeaverwool-1800yd.aspx<br /><br />Carla, always glad to hear from another author who sings the praises of Mark's talent and scholarship. :)Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-57522059768369326432010-11-17T09:31:37.793-05:002010-11-17T09:31:37.793-05:00Dear Loretta and Susan,
Great blog site. I love h...Dear Loretta and Susan,<br />Great blog site. I love history too. I had to post a comment when I saw Mark Hutter's name. He is amazing. His work on the George Washington figures will be included in my new book titled The Many Faces of George Washington: Remaking a Presidential Icon. I have a lot of respect for all those who reproduce historical clothing. <br /><br />Carla Killough McClafferty<br />www.carlamcclafferty.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01626767243598101073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-56292372342251134002010-11-16T20:04:59.022-05:002010-11-16T20:04:59.022-05:00Emma J, I'm guessing you're thinking of pi...Emma J, I'm guessing you're thinking of pirate coats as in Capt. Jack Sparrow and the N.C.Wyeth illustrations - romanticized pirates. :) If so, yes, they do seem to wear great coat-like garments like this:<br /><br />http://www.examiner.com/movie-locations-travel-in-national/new-pirates-of-the-caribbean-movie-announced<br /><br />Jan, I love the Coram portrait, too. Hogarth's portraits are wonderful - much more revealing than fashionably flattering. You can tell that old Coram is a self-made man, and proud of it! <br /><br />Colleen, you're welcome. I don't know for sure, but your guess about the velvet collar developing into a Chesterfield-style dresscoat sounds like a good one to me.<br /><br />Anonymous, I agree - Mr. Hutter does beautiful work!<br /><br />Charles, my notes say that the beaver cloth was all wool, brushed to look like beaver-fur. I also checked ever-reliable Florence Montgomery's "Textiles", and she, too, says beaver cloth is a woolen. Anyone else out there have a different opinion?<br /><br />LeLoup, thank you!<br /><br />Theo and Jane O, I completely agree that this would make a splendid, cozy coat for ladies, too.<br /><br />Kate, it's one thing to look at pictures of historic clothes, but sometime actually seeing them worn is a real revelation. I hadn't realized the extra potential of those deep cuffs until Mark demonstrated, either. Now if you can just get your husband to wear it more so he can demonstrate, too....*g*Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-3215019771820375422010-11-15T23:53:25.607-05:002010-11-15T23:53:25.607-05:00I made a simple greatcoat for my husband based on ...I made a simple greatcoat for my husband based on the diagrams in Beth Gilgum's Tidings from the 18th Century. It was actually a fairly simple project and I am not a good seamstress by any means. The one I made doesn't look as nice of course but has the same properties. But I never thought about turning the cuffs down even though they naturally fall down a bit because the fabric is heavy and soft. Good to know! Of course, my husband never wears it - we only go to reeanctments once or twice a year and he just throws it on the bed as an extra blanket. Oh well...Kate Dolanhttp://www.katedolan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-30406416659392451212010-11-15T22:21:09.680-05:002010-11-15T22:21:09.680-05:00It doesn't just look cozy, it looks so practic...It doesn't just look cozy, it looks so practical! I want a coat like that.Jane Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-29168752051723599302010-11-15T21:29:28.644-05:002010-11-15T21:29:28.644-05:00I love a greatcoat and you're right, we rarely...I love a greatcoat and you're right, we rarely get to really see them. Thank you to Mr. Hutter for his modeling and information :)<br /><br />I've been wearing the contemporary lady's equivalent for a long time now in an ankle length double breasted thick wool coat. I can understand why the greatcoat was so popular. They really are the warmest things.nightsmusichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984119792540771870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-62293664393826388632010-11-15T17:39:36.750-05:002010-11-15T17:39:36.750-05:00Excellent post, thank you.
Regards, Le Loup.
http:...Excellent post, thank you.<br />Regards, Le Loup.<br />http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/<br />http://eighteenthcenturylivinghistory.freeforums.org/Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12562001301604097606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-43588200805542358372010-11-15T14:43:47.130-05:002010-11-15T14:43:47.130-05:00Emma J, you might mean a 'pilot coat' or p...Emma J, you might mean a 'pilot coat' or paletot, but that wasn't a greatcoat. Just guessing.<br /><br />The mention of beaver is interesting. I assumed that a beaver coat would have some beaver in it, though it couldn't be all beaver since that was too stiff, which is why it made good hats. What this is saying is that it was actually wool or a mixture, felted to look like a beaver texture. Perhaps Mr. Hutter could confirm this?Charles Bazalgettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-46936583451885000022010-11-15T14:21:36.025-05:002010-11-15T14:21:36.025-05:00Job well done, Mr. Hutter.Job well done, Mr. Hutter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-56989642319518471732010-11-15T12:59:26.623-05:002010-11-15T12:59:26.623-05:00Thank you for these pictures! There are lots of im...Thank you for these pictures! There are lots of images of men's court dress on the internet for this period, but little in the way of everyday clothing. I'd venture that the wide velvet collar must be the ancestor of black velvet collars on Chesterfield style dress overcoats today.Colleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-81670171800412376132010-11-15T11:50:12.048-05:002010-11-15T11:50:12.048-05:00Love that portrait of Thomas Coram--got to see it ...Love that portrait of Thomas Coram--got to see it up close and personal when I took a British painting class in London 20 years ago. Great job by Hogarth of both showing the character of his sitter and cocking a snook at some of the conventions of "great man" portraiture.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07430151102779191991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-75975210444423040232010-11-15T10:43:55.691-05:002010-11-15T10:43:55.691-05:00I always think of these as "pirate coats.&quo...I always think of these as "pirate coats." Am I right?Emma Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06533674631324192458noreply@blogger.com