tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post4653413383813641377..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: Another Carriage, plus More Substantial StepsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-48467091570284288482009-11-25T11:46:16.660-05:002009-11-25T11:46:16.660-05:00I'm glad you showed those masonry steps for ca...I'm glad you showed those masonry steps for carriage mounting. My aunt lives in an almost 300 year old stone house, and it still has the stone carriage steps out front. I've never used them for that purpose, but as a kid I used them plenty of times for mounting bareback. Unlikely that they would have been used for mounting sidesaddle, as all ladies would have had a groom for that purpose, and at any rate, mounting isn't something that they would have attempted by themselves. And as far as trains go, habits of the time had straight hems all the way around with no integral trains; trains were usually detachable. Habits of the day were not reserved for riding. The same garment would have been used for most outdoor pursuits, including walking, traveling, and shooting. In my opinion, the most fetching and dashing of the habits are the redingotes, which are based on a man's great coat with integral short capes around the shoulders; these were usually made of a rugged earth toned material so as not to show dirt, but were left slightly open at the bottom to show a bit of feminine petticoat in a lighter pastel shade, such as rose or sky blue. <br /><br />For very good detailed information on period construction see Kass McGowen's site: www.reconstructinghistory.com. She's probably the most knowlegable re-enactor around, and has tons of information on her site about types of fabric, undergarments, etc.<br /><br />Another interesting detail about these large carriages: we used to have a fairly large coach in our carriage collection, though not quite as old as those we're discussing. It had a hidden compartment under the seat...with a chamber pot in it! Talk about awkward, and the smell can't have added to the romance.<br /><br />RobinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-63353895628130285112009-11-07T11:54:17.734-05:002009-11-07T11:54:17.734-05:00These are wonderful pictures & full of informa...These are wonderful pictures & full of informative details. Thank you for sharing your research trip in your blog.Ms.Aquariusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-36537429498925609772009-11-06T19:27:32.527-05:002009-11-06T19:27:32.527-05:00Loretta, remember what our coachman told us, too: ...Loretta, remember what our coachman told us, too: that by protocol, the highest ranking gentleman within the carriage was the first to leave it, so as to assist the highest ranking lady as she climbed down. <br /><br />Another thought: I'm betting those little folding steps were particularly precarious after a long night of heavy lordly drinking....Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-3359154971093000812009-11-06T18:01:16.158-05:002009-11-06T18:01:16.158-05:00The folding carriage steps weren't as solid an...The folding carriage steps weren't as solid and steady as I'd thought they would be. The small step as well as the bounce made me realize how easy it would be to stumble. But in most cases, there would be a sturdy footman, or even admiring gentleman, to help one down. (I made use of one of the straps.) Too, it would be the kind of thing one got used to, and ladies may have climbed in and out of carriages with the same ease an experienced horseman or woman mounts and dismounts. OTOH, those brick steps aren't going anywhere, and if you're pregnant or frail or not feeling well or never did get the hang of the folding carriage step, they're perfect!LorettaChasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03641586650738945106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-45015884000263759982009-11-06T15:52:25.776-05:002009-11-06T15:52:25.776-05:00Sherrie, I thought of the mounting blocks, too. A...Sherrie, I thought of the mounting blocks, too. As you say, they're usually more simply designed, but they're pretty much the same idea. Which makes me wonder if perhaps these steps were also used for climbing onto a horse? For a lady in a long riding habit, wouldn't it be easier to settle onto your sidesaddle from these steps?Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-48647391828908974372009-11-06T14:47:40.970-05:002009-11-06T14:47:40.970-05:00Those carriage steps remind me of another horse-re...Those carriage steps remind me of another horse-related convenience: the mounting block. They looked like the carriage steps, but were used for mounting horses. Mounting blocks are still in use today, though they're mostly a sturdy portable stool consisting of two steps. I believe they had portable mounting blocks even back then. You just lead the horse into position beside the mounting block and then climb on. The CW carriage steps look wonderfully substantial. ~Sherrie HolmesNews From the Holmesteadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032344892542402517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-26288573443142597992009-11-06T13:07:50.572-05:002009-11-06T13:07:50.572-05:00Thank you, Vicky and Becca! :)
Becca, I'm not...Thank you, Vicky and Becca! :)<br /><br />Becca, I'm not sure if gentlemen used the steps or not, or if it was considered unmanly. I'm guessing they did, since they weren't called "ladies' steps", just "carriage steps." Probably one more sign of rank, too: "I am so rich with so much land that I can afford to have these brick steps to nowhere built just for my occasional convenience."<br /><br />Vanessa, can you imagine requesting a sword box from your local car dealer? *g* OTOH, since all carriages were custom built, this likely was an "option" for a gentleman to choose. One wonders if they stuffed their sword cases full of the same junk we put in our glove compartments -- crumpled maps, a bottle opener, ancient snacks for the road...Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-49431456684542788962009-11-06T12:41:13.256-05:002009-11-06T12:41:13.256-05:00OK, now I want a glove compartment big enough for ...OK, now I want a glove compartment big enough for stashing my blade. Or, at the very least, my dueling pistols.Vanessa Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14571549124283013391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-11261650390822205012009-11-06T11:33:20.382-05:002009-11-06T11:33:20.382-05:00I agree- this blog is too cool!
Do you think gent...I agree- this blog is too cool! <br />Do you think gentlemen would have ever used those steps too? Or were they reserved only for the ladies?Beccanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-66949091997703689132009-11-06T09:20:45.761-05:002009-11-06T09:20:45.761-05:00Those brick carriage steps are so cool - and so i...Those brick carriage steps are so cool - and so is this blog. :-) Great job, ladies.Man Candy Fanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09542364196870106590noreply@blogger.com