tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post2102652411174717011..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: Foul-Weather Footwear: PattensUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-9506226580199603622018-12-17T01:25:08.943-05:002018-12-17T01:25:08.943-05:00I like the 18th c. ladies clogs. It's really c...I like the 18th c. ladies clogs. It's really cute and beautiful. Seven Feet Apart voucherhttp://www.sevenfeetapartdiscountcode.co.uk/category/vouchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-49178124703526054632016-02-03T19:27:35.009-05:002016-02-03T19:27:35.009-05:00I have a pair of pattens possibly from the 18th ce...I have a pair of pattens possibly from the 18th century and I'm interested in having them appraised and sold. They are in very good condition. Perhaps you could assist me. Thanks. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00613392841509517544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-63675001832608628422014-03-25T08:59:52.451-04:002014-03-25T08:59:52.451-04:00weird styles but i think its comfortable to wear.....weird styles but i think its comfortable to wear..rolltidedistricthttp://www.tigerdistrict.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-27793699285897499292014-01-26T12:00:05.220-05:002014-01-26T12:00:05.220-05:00Look at these very modern and very expensive shoes...Look at these very modern and very expensive shoes. They can't be all THAT uncomfortable. These look every similar to the ones the woman was depicted wearing for comic effect.<br />http://www.gravitypope.com/shoes/product/23853-trippen-faith-blk-faithCatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06440911582962307184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-89808420314436304302014-01-25T18:11:32.698-05:002014-01-25T18:11:32.698-05:00I had assumed that pattens were like the Dutch woo...I had assumed that pattens were like the Dutch wooden shoe, so I am truly grateful to you for clearing this up for me. I love the shoes of the 17th and 18th century. (When I saw Martha Washington's shoes, I wanted to hug them.) But, for all-time sexy shoes, forget four-inch shoes of today. It's the shoes of the early 1900s that I crave. But not the rubber galoshes worn in rainy weather. I think I would almost rather have the pattens.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329122662762438132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-34818551389292253202014-01-24T04:44:28.929-05:002014-01-24T04:44:28.929-05:00Which would lead very neatly into clog dancing.Which would lead very neatly into clog dancing.Mike@Bit About Britainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08741370413282813229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-49839114206445435092014-01-23T11:59:22.867-05:002014-01-23T11:59:22.867-05:00Also, this print shows a very well-dressed lady in...Also, this print shows a very well-dressed lady in pattens: http://images.library.yale.edu/walpoleweb/oneitem.asp?imageId=lwlpr07216<br />Everyone has to stay out the muck in the London streets somehow!ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-73266895782118811462014-01-23T11:02:00.711-05:002014-01-23T11:02:00.711-05:00A while ago I found a pamphlet on Google books abo...A while ago I found a pamphlet on Google books about charity schools from 1712 and they had lists on the minimum of clothing the children should have. I found itinteresting that the girls were to be provided with both shoes and pattens.<br /><br />It is an interesting list for the rest of the clothes as well:<br /><br />http://isiswardrobe.blogspot.com/2013/04/what-child-should-wear-in-1712.htmlIsishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09380497568603304818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-29992463498193150252014-01-23T10:26:23.794-05:002014-01-23T10:26:23.794-05:00Interestingly enough, the clogs I've looked at...Interestingly enough, the clogs I've looked at have all had quite a bit of wear, just perhaps where the shoe rubbed or the ties pulled. Just like most shoes and clothing in museums is the best of the bunch, so are the clogs. And remember, that style is what was worn here in the colonies where we don't have paved roads. The metal rings would sink right in. So, you're wearing that style on mud to prevent your nice shoes heels from sinking in or in the case of turn shoes, to keep the water from soaking through the sole as well. It doesn't wear the sole down much to walk on soft earth. I've worn fabric shoes through puddles and mud and all I had to do was brush the dried dirt off later. No damage.<br />While many online examples are the pretty brocade style that matches it's shoes, that's just a portion. There are plenty out there (many not displayed) that show wear and tear or are much sturdier in style. Check out this pair from the Powerhouse Museum: http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=239539&img=121410<br />About as utilitarian as it gets. The Met and MFA have similar pairs as well. I'm reproducing the Powerhouse pair and so far the thing that's obvious is that these aren't meant for everyday walking, especially not on CWs paved roads, they are rather rigid. I do really wish I had them when setting up the Marquee in the mud however, as I kept feeling my heels sink in and the water soaking through my soles!ColeVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677760179064796377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-91636909373560753662014-01-23T09:05:26.055-05:002014-01-23T09:05:26.055-05:00Found these too late to include in the post - but ...Found these too late to include in the post - but here's an amazing pair of RED half-boots and matching pattens from 1825: <br /><br />http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/156207Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-488283815918221222014-01-23T09:03:31.787-05:002014-01-23T09:03:31.787-05:00Helena - Yes, it's likely the more elegant pat...Helena - Yes, it's likely the more elegant pattens seldom saw any heavy duty wear. Down clean steps and into the carriage would be about their limits.<br /><br />Sarah - The difference between chopines and pattens are that the chopines were actual shoes, while pattens were overshoes. But yes, they were the ultimate platforms! I've written other posts about them before:<br /><br />http://twonerdyhistorygirls.blogspot.com/2010/11/shoe-history-repeats-itself-venetian.html<br /><br />http://twonerdyhistorygirls.blogspot.com/2009/08/shoes-not-made-for-walking.htmlIsabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-18911465565893004142014-01-23T08:38:16.507-05:002014-01-23T08:38:16.507-05:00They reached ridiculous heights in Renaissance Ita...They reached ridiculous heights in Renaissance Italy where the 'chopines' were several inches high and became part of display; the aristocratic women literally were above the lower class ones with their ordinary pattens. Hooded and cloaked to hide their garments once they had been married 3 years they must have been quite fearsome figures. <br />Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03121102757759349165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-70523552846722937692014-01-23T04:12:43.690-05:002014-01-23T04:12:43.690-05:00Given that they show little signs of wear, is it p...Given that they show little signs of wear, is it possible that the "light, second sole that tied over a lady's heeled dress shoe" was used merely between the house and carriage and vice versa when the wearer arrived at the other end? They could be taken off and left with the evening cloak etc. if the visitor was staying for a while, or even worn within the house if she was there on a short afternoon call. <br /><br />So they would never be used for walking about in the streets (they'd do a poor job at protecting the shoe from real filth) but they'd protect the delicate fabric and sole as the shoe crossed a relatively clean pavement to and from a carriage.Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553503435833467369noreply@blogger.com