tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post6911473832641036753..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: See-Through Summer Dresses for 1782?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-68711112218444802212016-07-04T17:05:36.181-04:002016-07-04T17:05:36.181-04:00Anonymous July 4.
The clothing portrayed on Egypt...Anonymous July 4.<br /><br />The clothing portrayed on Egyptian wall paintings idealized the body. The fabric would have been linen. So what is usually depicted as women's clothing i.e. sheer sheath - was not an actual representation. Woven cotton was not used at that time;<br /><br />http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/pleated-linen-dress-147579<br /><br />Helen of Troy was also personified and she is a mythical character...<br /><br />ChristinaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09004403615102176000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-54036464002031889492016-07-04T14:05:07.584-04:002016-07-04T14:05:07.584-04:00Hieroglyphs depict ancient Egyptian women in very ...Hieroglyphs depict ancient Egyptian women in very sheer linen garments. And didn't Helen of Troy scandalize her contemporaries with very airy dresses? Sheer has legs, historically speaking.<br />Felicia SwoopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-52481787102692631552016-07-03T13:33:28.399-04:002016-07-03T13:33:28.399-04:00There may be some questions about the chemise a la...There may be some questions about the chemise a la reine but references show that;<br /><br />1. Muslin cotton from India was imported as woven fabric from England to France.<br /><br />2. In 1784 Georgina, Duchess of Devonshire attended a concert in a muslin chemise given to her by the Queen of France. (Norah Waugh, The Cut of Women's Clothes 1600-1830).<br /><br />3. French colonial association with West Indian, Creole dress. (Katherine Joslin, Crossings in Text and Textile).<br /><br />I tend to lean towards the French taking the lead with the chemise.<br /><br />ChristinaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09004403615102176000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-17497452993400089262016-07-02T14:30:17.785-04:002016-07-02T14:30:17.785-04:00French history nerd here... apologies in advance f...French history nerd here... apologies in advance for my poor command of English & long message. <br />I am very surprised you mention the chemise à la reine as a typically French garment that later came into fashion in London as I've always heard influence went the other way round at the time. Late 18th/early 19th century fashion in France was greatly inspired by clothing worn by the English countryside gentry. A typical exemple is the dark jacket worn by men during the Georgian era: you call it a "riding-coat" in English, it became "redingote" in French thanks to our poor aptitude at articulating foreign languages...<br />Now regarding the chemise à la reine, you rightly mention that those dresses were made of light cotton fabric. That was British India grown cotton, fabric woven in England. Marie Antoinette famously created an uproar in the French textile industry when she started wearing those dresses. She was accused of promoting English products (God help us!) to the detriment of the French textile industry (mainly the luxury silk textile companies in Lyon). That was one of the first missteps the "Austrian" queen did that generated resentment against her in France and lead to her tragic downfall...<br />As for see-through dresses, they would become an actual thing a few years after Marie Antoinette's tragic ending. Indeed, right after the Révolution, a young and beautiful widow named Rose de Beauharnais created a massive scandale in Paris (and a name for herself) when she was spotted on a Sunday afternoon strolling around the Champs Elysées, arm in arm with her best friend Thérésa Tallien, both women wearing extremely thin muslin Empire style dresses with no undergarment. It left absolutely nothing to the imagination! Rose de Beauharnais and her fashion sense became all the fuss in Paris, she later on married a young general with a promising career and she is known to posterity under the name Empress Joséphine Bonaparte!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-68142930810232513092016-06-27T11:04:03.170-04:002016-06-27T11:04:03.170-04:00Satire is so very revealing [no pun intended!]. A...Satire is so very revealing [no pun intended!]. And just what I need for the WIP which is set in 1787 so I can clothe my heroine in just such a gown! Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03121102757759349165noreply@blogger.com