tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post3875000600666725418..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: An Afternoon in St. James's Park, c. 1745Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-44783032996919392452018-10-04T08:38:21.703-04:002018-10-04T08:38:21.703-04:00Dear NERDY HISTORIANS, As I'm trying to wr...Dear NERDY HISTORIANS, As I'm trying to write a History of Politeness, I am currently studying the mores of 18th century England and Denmark respectively and I was happy to find your blog on the Internet. Given the considerable differences in social and political developments during the 18th century in these two countries, I certainly didn't expect to find so many similarities. Denmark was a country of aristocratic landowners, peasants and a tiny capital where the absolute king lived, whereas England was moving rapidly towards modernity economically, socially, culturally and politically . Why, then, does one find the same rules of etiquette, the same tastes in comedy and fiction, targeting of the same follies in caricatures,etc and the same overwhelming amount of portraits showing bourgeois people ? I wish I had a chance to talk to you about these topics as I'm sure it would be a great inspiration for my work. Thank you for being nerdy and for your blog. SIncerely yours, Ane Jakobsen, Parkvej 31, 6100 Haderslev, DenmarkAne Jakobsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-28153649924447485092014-04-29T13:01:07.748-04:002014-04-29T13:01:07.748-04:00I am interested that several of the women's go...I am interested that several of the women's gowns have skirts that are very short on the side. See the woman in blue directly left go the prince. She is wearing side hoops/panniers, and her skirts rise up on the sides over the panniers. It is as though the gown was cut to wear with a round hoop or no hoop at all, but the lady decided to wear it with side hoops. There are several in the picture like this.<br />The seated lady in white behind her is wearing a round hoop-a style popular in the 1730s but going out of style by the 40s.<br />I wonder if we are seeing the transition from the round silhouette to the side silhouette. These ladies have adopted the new fashion, but are wearing them with their older gowns not cut for the new fashion. Very practical ladies, I'd say!Jane Peasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-33628530284471207742014-04-29T07:50:47.492-04:002014-04-29T07:50:47.492-04:00Helena, if you click on the "further details&...Helena, if you click on the "further details" tab on the Royal Collection site, they mention Nickolls as the current attribution. It also says previous attributions included William Hogarth (no way) and Samuel Wale. You'd think that since the painting was acquired by George IV for the collection that there'd be some definite record of the painter - but apparently not. Perhaps some day some lucky art historian will find a letter or bill that will give the definitive answer, but until then, it seems the attribution must be a moving target.Isabella Bradford/Susan Holloway Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997375216314200469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-32200956338967133852014-04-29T05:24:59.746-04:002014-04-29T05:24:59.746-04:00P.S. The last sentence of my previous comment was...P.S. The last sentence of my previous comment was because the Royal website merely says "Attributed to British School, 18th century". I see now that you give an attribution to Joseph Nickolls.Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553503435833467369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-18318177815708591312014-04-29T05:21:56.090-04:002014-04-29T05:21:56.090-04:00Thank you for posting this! I'd seen it befor...Thank you for posting this! I'd seen it before but had never taken the time to look at it closely, and the link you gave was excellent for a detailed examination. It gives an impression that London that day was quite cosmopolitan! The Royal website explains the significance of the tartan-wearing soldiers; I was struck by how short their kilts were (well above their knees). They must have been so chilly to wear, especially in Scotland.<br /><br />I'm a bit surprised that the artist is unknown.Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553503435833467369noreply@blogger.com