tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post3218642433031750120..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: Men Behaving Punitively: Still flogging after all these yearsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-669639460613163942012-05-27T22:08:07.579-04:002012-05-27T22:08:07.579-04:00Floggings of schoolboys up until the early ninetee...Floggings of schoolboys up until the early nineteenth century were savage in their severity, consisting of several dozen strokes of the birch applied to the bare buttocks of a boy mounted over a school 'flogging block'. School floggings would leave the whole of a boy's bottom and upper thighs (including the anoperineal sphere) a mass of blood and raw, lacerated flesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-55455799927834929052010-02-26T14:26:59.323-05:002010-02-26T14:26:59.323-05:00For whatever reason, corporal punishment seemed to...For whatever reason, corporal punishment seemed to have been deeply ingrained in the English psyche, not only in the military, but through the public schools as well. Curious.Daniel Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-63598162275528441802010-02-25T14:29:00.210-05:002010-02-25T14:29:00.210-05:00nightmusic--my understanding, and I can't reca...nightmusic--my understanding, and I can't recall where I picked this up, is that the punishment was often meted out over time. So you didn't get the 500 lashes at once, you got a more "reasonable" number, healed a bit, then went at it again. Not sure if that's the case, but it made sense from the point of view of not actually killing the guy.<br /><br />What amazes me are the fellows who were continually being flogged--I would have been terrified of the mere threat enough not to misbehave at all! Makes you wonder how effective it was, though, if some people were constantly repeating flogging offenses.Rowennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09757364614589686606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-20174801749018267722010-02-25T13:55:50.554-05:002010-02-25T13:55:50.554-05:00I did find it interesting that in a time when corp...I did find it interesting that in a time when corporal punishment was common--when even aristocratic schoolboys were whipped--there were men who made speeches like the one Hobhouse made as well as men like Hume, who year after year continued to present his motion, even though it apparently became a sort of joke in Parliament. This struck me as one in a long line of legislative efforts to reform something or redress a wrong that take forever to be enacted, in spite of the fact that so many people support the reform in principle. But again and again, such efforts come smack up against Resistance to (or Fear of) Change. I thought the "I can't vote for it or against it" response expressed this beautifully. For me, reading these debates sheds a very bright light on Dickens's novels.LorettaChasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03641586650738945106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-85060048805097372482010-02-25T11:10:35.335-05:002010-02-25T11:10:35.335-05:00Did I read that right? 400 to 500 lashes? It's...Did I read that right? 400 to 500 lashes? It's a wonder any of the men had enough skin left to cover their bones, let alone turn around and fight for King and Country!<br /><br />Though I don't see the lead balls or tiny hooks that often were at the end of each tail on the lash, it still did enough damage without them.<br /><br />Civilized society indeed...nightsmusichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984119792540771870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-34348825888740834742010-02-25T10:34:27.346-05:002010-02-25T10:34:27.346-05:00"that it ought to be continued because it had..."that it ought to be continued because it had existed." Also expressed as, "But we've always done it this way..."<br /><br />I can't decide if I'm amused or depressed by how persistent this idea is.<br /><br />On the other hand, I come here every day, which is an example of continuing...Katy Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10631346527514599876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-87681534773213540622010-02-25T10:29:05.220-05:002010-02-25T10:29:05.220-05:00It's a good illustration of the power of law. ...It's a good illustration of the power of law. When told something is legal, people will accept and even participate in an action that they might otherwise view with horror (or at least distaste). It's sort of an extension of the effect of a mob — people in a group will do things they would never dream of doing as individuals.Jane Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-58315109057314754212010-02-25T02:37:40.285-05:002010-02-25T02:37:40.285-05:00It always amazes me what some humans will do to ot...It always amazes me what some humans will do to other humans and other animals with very little or no provication.<br />Le Loup.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12562001301604097606noreply@blogger.com