tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post298283594861525011..comments2023-10-20T11:17:47.246-04:00Comments on Two Nerdy History Girls: When a Victorian Painting Isn't What It SeemsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-9118454642880503822016-07-30T05:55:29.301-04:002016-07-30T05:55:29.301-04:00I would assume that she is the painter and trying ...I would assume that she is the painter and trying to sell her work to the wealthy merchant.Nadinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-83716015253622735352016-07-29T19:56:57.688-04:002016-07-29T19:56:57.688-04:00A bummer, regardless.
The painter in the painting...A bummer, regardless.<br /><br />The painter in the painting might have been able to sell the work by pretending it was by a male, or having a male friend try to sell it as his own work. Certainly some women did this in various endeavors, Andre Norton and so on. I would like to go back and suggest this to her.<br /><br />Even today, this works in some areas. I saw this when I edited wikipedia as myself, a female, and then as a lark created a new account with a male name. It was astonishing how less often my edits in the later account were challenged.<br />Karen Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306986336556283751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-5353236275180930932016-07-28T17:59:21.151-04:002016-07-28T17:59:21.151-04:00This painting immediately reminded me of the scene...This painting immediately reminded me of the scene in Thackeray's Vanity Fair where the poor, widowed Amelia, accompanied (I think) by her little son George, tries to sell her paintings to earn a bit of money.<br />And look! The name of the artist is the same! Emily Osborne = Emmy Osborne (Thackeray often calls Amelia 'Emmy'). So... who was inspired by whom? Since Thackeray wrote Vanity Fair in 1846, and Emily Osborne painted this in 1857, I suppose Osborne could well have taken the idea from Vanity Fair - her imagination caught by the accident of the names, perhaps.<br />In which case, the inclusion of the painting of the ballet dancer could be a reference to Becky Sharp, whose mother was an opera dancer.Jane in Portugalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864147018115602306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-83909981101831102162016-07-28T13:46:36.106-04:002016-07-28T13:46:36.106-04:00The idea that she's a widow (or a bereaved dau...The idea that she's a widow (or a bereaved daughter) being forced to sell her property to make ends meet makes sense. However...is that boy a porter? And is he carrying a portfolio of hers? Is...is she trying to sell a painting of hers to an art dealer, pretending that it was done by her dead father, husband or brother?Gehayihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03131998030504743109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-80620133486314778272016-07-28T11:14:57.411-04:002016-07-28T11:14:57.411-04:00I enjoy all of your posts concerning Victorian art...I enjoy all of your posts concerning Victorian art. This one is lovely. I don't believe the woman is all that young and the boy could very well be her son and she could be a widow in dire straits. Thank you so much for another terrific post.Dot S.(ladeetdareads.wordpress.com)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10576320146150592449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-31333817110869657192016-07-28T10:22:17.209-04:002016-07-28T10:22:17.209-04:00Don't know if you can receive this , however; ...Don't know if you can receive this , however; I really enjoy your posts.Sanfranpk peaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-70125516395574408602016-07-28T10:12:53.288-04:002016-07-28T10:12:53.288-04:00Loved this post!Loved this post!Cindihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912264653772124911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-31140217280032470022016-07-28T08:18:32.883-04:002016-07-28T08:18:32.883-04:00Pardon my poor spelling.On a cell phone.Pardon my poor spelling.On a cell phone.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12209551456725339492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-25602686180176851632016-07-28T08:14:56.979-04:002016-07-28T08:14:56.979-04:00I certainly think shes poor and bereaved but the g...I certainly think shes poor and bereaved but the glances if the men with the ballt dancer painting is suspicious.Victoruan womens vulnerability when it comes to being exploited ny men?Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12209551456725339492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5022318990784415929.post-83825806675758097572016-07-28T03:42:54.920-04:002016-07-28T03:42:54.920-04:00I think it's easy to assume she's an impov...I think it's easy to assume she's an impoverished widow because we simply don't think of women taking on careers outside the home in those times, except perhaps, for domestic service, or the "nursing" provided by women who came generally from the lower classes.<br /><br />That she's in a position of disadvantage and poverty is plain enough; the biggest room for misinterpretation, to me, lies only in the reason for both.<br /><br />What I find interesting in Victorian painting is how so often it combines fantasy and prettiness with a certain realism that's hard to resist believing.Lucynoreply@blogger.com